Well, in this case, SJ.Â Â For some reason they have decided to junk their system quite a bit worse than should be, most probably due to some kind of idea that people should not be allowed to look at timetables and / or travels.
Here's the beef (junkie)Â :Â The idiots demand that you first tell them what kind of ticket you want(1st,2nd, unbooked trip)
Then, on another page.Â what kind of traveller (Retired, Youth, student, normal) that you are.
After that you get shown another page with the times and an option to compare the prices.
Except, if you want to compare them,Â be aware that a "Retired" -cannot- use a normal ticket,Â so you have to jump back stages to check what the normal ticket prices would be.